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Pierre Beerens

Pierre Beerens is Entrepreneur / real estate developer.

Overview

In this Let's Interact Podcast episode, real estate expert Pierre Beerens shares his contrarian view that young people should not buy their first home to live in. He explains the opportunity cost of locking savings into a home mortgage versus renting cheaply and buying income-generating properties (small apartments, garage boxes) that pay for themselves, creating a snowball of reinvestment. He illustrates the power of compound interest and leverage: borrowing from the bank means your return applies to the full investment, not just your own capital. In the second half he explains why Belgium sees ever more apartment blocks: rising construction costs, stricter building norms, the 'betonstop' (no new building land conversions) and limited affordability force denser, higher construction.

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The through-line

Everything Pierre Beerens says comes back to a single trade: time is the only genuinely scarce thing, so stop selling it. "Er is één ding die in de wereld echt schaars is en dat is niet centen, het is tijd. Dat is het enigste dat echt superschaars is." [2] From that follows the rest of his position, which is unusually consistent across every subject he touches. Never work for an hourly rate if you can help it, because "er is nooit niemand rijk geworden van nine to five" [2], and he says he acted on this literally: "Ik heb nooit van mijn leven in loonverband gewerkt, nooit. Ik heb niet één dag als employee gewerkt omdat ik dat boek had gelezen voordat ik afgestudeerd was." [2] The destination he names is not wealth but autonomy: "Het hoogste wat ik naar aspireer is vrijheid" [1], meaning freedom of time and finances, reachable only by being a business owner, an investor, or both, with a system that runs by itself [1].

The second half of the through-line is timing. Act early, act small, act now, and let compounding do the work you cannot do by force. "De beste moment om iets te doen is nu" [1], because "de sterren gaan nooit geallineerd zijn op de perfecte momenten. Er gaat altijd een moeilijkheid zijn, maar neemt die moeilijkheid zo vroeg mogelijk in uw leven" [1]. He describes his own path without polish: "Mijn verhaal is een verhaal van vallen en opstaan." [6]

On starting young and the real risk

Beerens inverts the usual risk calculation. Trading time for money is always available as a fallback, so a young person starting a business risks very little; you can always go back to renting out your hours [1]. The real danger runs the other way. People who build a corporate career first often find they can no longer start anything, because by then they have a house, children and too much to lose, and comfort has trapped them [1]. The opportunity cost he actually fears is not failing at 27 but reaching 40 with an unrealised dream while paying off a mortgage, a car and holidays [1].

He is equally blunt about advice from the people around you: "Luister niet en gaat 100% voor wat dat gij gelooft... de kans is vrij groot dat zij niet hebben wat dat gij wil." [1] Friends and parents who counsel against it usually do not possess the life you are aiming for [1]. And on regret, his accounting is one-sided: his only real regrets are having trusted the wrong people, never the positive risks he took. "Ge kunt spijt hebben van een risico, maar zo een positief risico nemen, denk niet dat je daar ooit spijt van kunt hebben." [1] Even the ventures that failed paid off in experience, which is why "ge begint niet van niks hè. Je begint met ervaring" [1]. The sum of all the small failed attempts is what builds an entrepreneur [1]. His governing instruction on momentum: "Als ge niet kunt lopen, wandelt; als je niet kunt wandelen, kruipt, maar zorgt ervoor dat ge verdomd vooruit gaat." [1]

On the path out of the rat race

He lays out a sequence rather than a leap. Start self-employed with pay linked to results rather than hours, turn that activity into a business, then invest the proceeds [2]. Full commission-based pay in real estate sales is his example of a valuable, filtering first experience: only those who keep performing survive, and they build portfolios in the process [6]. The discipline that makes the sequence work is spending from returns, not from principal: "Het is het product van uw investering dat je moet gebruiken, niet het kapitaal dat je moet gebruiken om een investering te doen." [2]

The concrete version is assets before liabilities. Rather than financing a €50,000 BMW at €400 a month, first buy garage boxes generating €400 to €500 a month, which then pay for that car and every car after it while the asset holds or gains value [2]. Against this stands lifestyle inflation, the trap he admits he partly fell into himself before consciously stopping: as income rises, spending rises to meet it [2]. The payoff for getting this right early is not marginal. "Wacht een keer iets 5 jaar, wacht ik 10 jaar, wacht 15 jaar en zie het verschil dat zich graaft tussen de mensen die dat doen en de mensen die doen wat het boek zegt: het is astronomisch." [2]

On not buying a house to live in

This is his most contrarian position, and he holds it as a real estate professional. "Ik zou nooit mijn eerste pan kopen om in te wonen." [3] Putting all your savings into a home you then pay off monthly destroys the opportunity cost of that capital; instead live very frugally, rent something small, and buy properties that pay for themselves [3]. He practises it: "Koopt vastgoed voor te gaan verhuren en begin investeerder. Ik huur momenteel zelf ook nog, hè." [2] And he accepts the bill without flinching: "Ik ben 10.000 euro's kwijt aan huur, maar ik zal het elke keer opnieuw doen." [3]

The standard objection, that renting is money thrown away, he concedes only conditionally: "Het is waar als ze met de rest van het geld en niks doet, dan is dat 100% verloren geld. Maar als jij ervoor zorgt dat u geld dat jij verdient spaart, investeert..." [3] Keep saving and keep buying income-generating property whose rent covers your own rent and the next down payment, and you get a waterfall effect [3]. Buy your own home later, once your patrimonium is large enough to pay for it [3]. Behind it all sits his argument for acting early, illustrated by the arrow shifted one centimetre at launch that lands a metre off target: cutting off the start of the trajectory slows your evolution dramatically, and small early actions compound into enormous differences over ten to twenty years [3]. Or, more simply: "Als ge doet wat dat iedereen doet, ga je hebben wat daar iedereen heeft." [3]

On parkings, garage boxes and leverage

For someone with €5,000 to €10,000, his entry point is parking spots and garage boxes, and the reason is not the one people expect. "Ik doe het niet voor het rendement van die parking, ik doe het niet voor de meerwaarde van die parking, ik doe het omdat mijn huurder mij helpt sneller te sparen." [4] The tenant repays the outstanding loan, which beats leaving money in a savings account: "Ge kunt bijna niet sparen van tempo dat ge geld aan het verliezen zijt" [4], with inflation around 10% doing the eroding [4]. For a graduate saving €250 to €300 a month, an extra €150 a month from a rented parking roughly doubles the savings rate with almost no work, whereas earning €1,500 extra net through salary progression typically takes many years [4].

The mechanism that makes this possible is that property is one of the very few asset classes you can buy with someone else's money. He puts it as a two-sided conversation: "Ga naar de bank: 'Hallo Belfius, mijn naam is Pierre, ik wil €100.000 van u lenen want ik wil €100.000 aan aandelen van Belfius kopen', en die zeggen neen. Andere zijde: 'Goedendag bank, moet ge mij €100.000 lenen, ik wil graag drie parkings kopen' — geen enkel probleem." [4] The leverage arithmetic follows: a 3% return applies to the total investment financed with bank money while you pay interest only on what you borrowed against limited own capital, with compound interest layered on top [3]. He prefers garage boxes to plain parking spots because demand is broader, from oldtimer owners to electricians using them as stock rooms to hobbyists doing ceramics, uses you would never expect [4]. "Garageboxen zijn denk ik een hele goede start voor iemand die ermee wil beginnen." [4] The ladder: a €30,000 box needs roughly 30% down, about €10,000, the tenant pays the rest, you repeat to a second and third, and after a few years the accumulated equity you never had to save yourself funds the step up to a first apartment [4].

On the Belgian property market

He reads the market structurally. Apartment blocks keep replacing houses because construction costs are rising, norms are tightening with mandatory heat pumps instead of gas, the betonstop prevents new building land coming forward, and starters have limited budgets, so smaller and denser is the only affordable answer to demand [3]. At the same time, "de gemiddelde woning in België is 60 jaar oud" [3], which he reads as an enormous opportunity in renovating the existing stock, even as affordability forces people to live smaller [3]. On the demand side for investment products, he points to the moment savings account rates dropped below 1% and savers started looking for alternatives, creating appetite for real estate aimed at investment portfolios [6].

On focus

The single sentence he credits for his breakthrough is a rule about attention: "Ga een keuze moeten maken want een gesplitste focus is geen focus." [6] He dropped his nightclub side job, went fully into real estate sales, and "het resultaat is gewoon maal vier gegaan in het jaar daarna door te focussen" [6]. He is careful about the causality. It was not that he became the best; it was undivided attention plus the absence of a safety net, "ook no way back — je hebt geen vast inkomen, niks" [6]. Combining two things is fine once you have mastered one, but during the initial learning phase you should not split your attention between two ventures [6]. That said, he does run parallel activities now for a reason of cash flow rather than ambition: project development cycles are very long, from acquiring land through permits to sales before the first euro arrives, so he keeps consultancy work as day-to-day income alongside his own developments [6].

On routine as the engine

He came to routine reluctantly. He used to hate it and partly fled employment to avoid it, then found that building a fixed morning routine, fast lead follow-up and scheduled sport, became the single biggest contributor to his success once his workload grew [1]. The deeper use of routine is as a solvent for intimidating goals. Calling 3,000 bakers to find a mentor is impossible as a heroic push and straightforward as ten calls a day [1]. You will never do it in one burst; you do it by turning it into a schedule [1].

On what school does not teach

His frustration with formal education is specific rather than general. Doing a master in entrepreneurship, he ran into concepts he had never been taught: "Hoe kan dat, ik doe hier de master in entrepreneurship en niemand leert mij wat dat in dit boek staat?" [5] He makes the same complaint about Solvay, that a Master in Entrepreneurship does not deliver lessons available in a book costing €10 to €20 [2]. His motivation for his commercial engineering studies was further eroded by discovering that large employers such as L'Oréal and PwC made no distinction between fields of study, only degree level [5]. Reading Rich Dad Poor Dad he calls decisive: "Dat was echt voor mij denk ik één van de belangrijkste momenten in het kader van mijn leven." [5] What he wanted from it was plain enough: "Ik wil een leven waar dat ik goed mijn boterham ga kunnen verdienen." [5]

On the lessons that cost him money

The formative scare came from a contract clause he did not read. Running a promo agency from his dorm room, he took on a client with 180-day payment terms, which meant paying around 40 students at the end of the month against an invoice that would settle six months later [5]. His father lent him the money, but at the same interest rate a bank would charge for an overdraft, a piece of deliberate financial discipline, and he then worked the following jobs himself to repay as fast as possible [5]. From the same period he draws his read on where value actually sits in a client relationship: "Ik zat eigenlijk constant te werken voor Coca-Cola en ik had een betere band op de deur met de klanten dan de accountmanager van de firma." [5] Later, knowing he wanted to be a project developer rather than a passive property investor, he deliberately delayed his first real estate investment until he had saved enough to buy land [5].

Takeaways

  • Do not sell hours. Move from self-employment paid on results to owning a business to investing the proceeds, because "er is nooit niemand rijk geworden van nine to five" [2].
  • Spend the yield, never the principal: "Het is het product van uw investering dat je moet gebruiken, niet het kapitaal dat je moet gebruiken om een investering te doen." [2]
  • Buy the cashflow before the toy: garage boxes producing €400 to €500 a month first, then let them pay for the €50,000 car and every one after it [2].
  • Rent your own home and put the capital into rental property; postpone buying to live in until your portfolio can pay for it [3].
  • Start with parkings and garage boxes at €5,000 to €10,000 down, because the tenant repaying your loan doubles a graduate's savings rate faster than years of salary progression [4].
  • Use property because banks lend against it: they will refuse €100,000 for their own shares and approve the same sum for three parkings [4].
  • During the learning phase, pick one thing. Dropping the side venture and focusing quadrupled his results in a year [6].
  • Break intimidating goals into a daily quota, ten calls a day rather than 3,000 in one push, and protect the routine as the actual engine of output [1].
  • Take the difficulty early, before a house, kids and comfort make starting impossible, and ignore advisers who do not have the life you want [1].

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