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Davy Macquoi

Davy Macquoi is Entrepreneur (construction, multiple SMEs).

Overview

In episode 62 of the BlackBird podcast, host Andy Coomans interviews Davy Macquoi, construction entrepreneur and musician (Daalman). Davy founded engineering/study bureau Macobo from a small storage room in his house, growing organically to ~50 employees in a few years, then acquired three sector peers in 2018 (financed across multiple banks) to reach 130 employees. After completing the integration with his then-wife Nathalie, he felt the challenge was gone and sold his shares, keeping only the Vekmo division. He then invested in a friend's struggling concrete-drilling company (Jans), where a 'due diligence light' proved a costly mistake; he led a court-approved reorganization, brought in outside investors (SIM Ventures, Swert family, Cores Development) accepting dilution, and stepped down as CEO once crisis management was done. He closes by arguing for diversification: he now runs five companies including a new renovation startup and a real-estate vehicle, insisting entrepreneurs should never bet on one horse.

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The through-line

Macquoi's recurring argument is that the parts of entrepreneurship that decide your outcome are precisely the parts nobody teaches you. "Je leert in op de schoolbanken niet hoe dat je een bedrijf bouwt, dat ook al niet, maar al zeker niet hoe ga je het dan later verkopen of ga je overnames doen" [1]. He speaks as someone who learned by paying for it: acquisitions done well, an exit taken at the right moment, and an investment lost within weeks because he trusted a friend instead of the numbers. The conclusion he draws is procedural rather than sentimental. Get the tools before you need them, look at the figures even when relationships say you don't have to, and treat the exit as a design decision made at the start rather than an event that happens to you.

The position has hardened over time in one respect. Having built a single company to 130 employees and then sold his shares, he now rejects the single-company model outright: "Enkel spelen anno vandaag op één firma zou ik, met de wijsheid die ik vandaag heb, niet meer doen" [2].

On planning the exit from day one

He treats exit thinking as universal, not as a niche interest for people currently in a sale process. "We zijn tenslotte allemaal ondernemers die vroeg of laat een exit moeten maken, en dan heb je maar best die tools aangereikt gekregen" [1]. The practical instruction follows from that: "Best is dat je van meet af aan denkt van: hoe ga ik en wanneer ga ik die exit maken" [1]. He is explicit that his own earlier transactions would have gone better had he possessed that know-how at the time [1].

The exit toolkit he values most concretely is the one for binding key people. Selling shares to employees or arranging a management buy-out means understanding what those people can personally finance and knowing how you, as vendor, can help fund them, which is exactly the kind of mechanics most entrepreneurs never encounter [1].

On acquisitions and how to finance them

His growth to 130 employees came through three acquisitions in a single year, and the selection method was deliberately ambitious [2]. The M&A advisor's instruction was to dream big: write down the companies you would most want to merge with and go after the hardest ones first. The top three on that list became the actual deals [2].

On the funding side he applied two rules. First, spread the risk: the financing of the three acquisitions was deliberately placed across several banks, because concentrating everything at one institution felt too exposed [2]. Second, treat the banks as a test of the plan rather than an obstacle to it. "Als je het plan niet verkocht krijgt aan de banken, dan heb je het ofwel niet goed uitgelegd of gewoon: het plan is gewoon niet goed" [2].

On integrating after a merger

Where most acquirers move quickly to eliminate duplicate functions, he did the opposite. The organisations were run in parallel for a period instead of being merged immediately, which gave people time to self-reflect and to negotiate their new roles organically. The result he points to is the absence of slammed doors: nobody left in anger [2].

On due diligence and trusting friends

The sharpest and most costly lesson is stated as a flat instruction: "Doe geen due diligence light, probeer toch goede cijfers te bekijken" [2]. Investing alongside a close friend, he skipped the full review out of trust, and the two things he did not see were fatal. A newly started demolition division had no known figures at all, and projects had been undercalculated. The investment was gone within weeks [2].

On turning round a distressed company

The Jans turnaround was executed by amputation and return to fundamentals. Court approval was obtained to shut the loss-making demolition division immediately, and the business went "back to the roots" of the historically profitable core of concrete drilling and sawing [2]. Debts were negotiated openly with suppliers rather than concealed, and most creditors agreed to keep trading with the company [2].

Two other things carried it. He accepted dilution, bringing in SIM Ventures, the Swert family and Cores Development, because his own capital injection was not enough to fully recapitalise the business [2]. And he made himself visible at the sharp end, both physically and rhetorically: "Ik sta gewoon terug op de werf als werfleider met een keep van de mannen" [2], with the message to the team being "We zitten hier samen in dat moeras, we gaan erdoor en we zullen erdoor geraken" [2].

On delegating yourself out of a job

He is unusually candid that success in delegation can be self-defeating. Making yourself positively redundant works: once the integration was complete and the management team ran itself, the company no longer needed him. It also removed the reason he was there, because the fun of entrepreneurship had gone, and that is what prompted him to sell his shares [2].

He generalises this into a view about leadership stages. Different growth phases call for different types of leader, and the person who takes a company from A to B is not necessarily the person who should occupy that chair from C to D [2].

On multiple income streams

His current model is parallel entrepreneurship: build several income streams into a personal management company rather than betting everything on one firm [2]. The reasoning is actuarial. With average company lifespans of roughly fifteen years, value concentrated in a single business can evaporate quickly, which is why he would no longer play on one company alone [2].

On learning across sectors

He puts real weight on peer exchange outside his own industry, mixing with people from construction, horeca and services, because the exit and ownership challenges turn out to be substantially the same everywhere. His summary of why the cross-sector room works is three words: "Ondernemen is ondernemen" [1].

Takeaways

  • Design the exit at the start: decide how and when you will exit from day one, because every entrepreneur makes one sooner or later [1].
  • If you want to bind key staff through a share sale or management buy-out, first understand their personal financial capacity and how you as vendor can help finance them [1].
  • Pick acquisition targets by listing the companies you most want to merge with and going after the hardest ones first [2].
  • Spread acquisition financing across several banks rather than concentrating every deal at one [2].
  • Treat a bank rejection as diagnostic: "Als je het plan niet verkocht krijgt aan de banken, dan heb je het ofwel niet goed uitgelegd of gewoon: het plan is gewoon niet goed" [2].
  • After a merger, run duplicate organisations in parallel for a period so people negotiate their new roles themselves, instead of cutting immediately [2].
  • Never do a due diligence light, even with a close friend; missing undisclosed figures and undercalculated projects can wipe out the investment within weeks [2].
  • In a turnaround, shut the loss-making division fast, return to the profitable historic core, and negotiate debts openly with suppliers [2].
  • Accept dilution from outside investors when your own capital is not enough to recapitalise a distressed company [2].
  • Build multiple income streams in a personal management company; with average company lifespans of about fifteen years, betting on one firm is a concentrated risk [2].

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